Are you planning to get H1N1 vaccine?

Alicia · Senior Member

RE: Are you planning to get H1N1 vaccine?

Dddiii · Guru

Meghan got the regular flu mist a couple weeks ago (she has to for school) but since the H1N1 vaccine isn't mandatory, I'm still on the fence.

I can't bring myself to get the regular flu shot even though I think I probably should. And I'm 99% sure I won't do the H1N1 but I can't say I 100% won't right now before I see how things develop. Not a good time to be pregnant IMO. Even the nurse practioner at my OB's office said she feels for all the preggers right now... it's a hard decision and even she doesn't know what she would do.

Juanita · Guru

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

Chickie · Senior Member

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

Chickie · Senior Member

I thought of one other thing....

In order for the Tamiflu to be effective, you have to start taking it within the first 48 hours of symptoms. So if you think you might have it, it's worth it to go to the doc and get tested when you first get sick rather than trying to ride it out.

Also if the doc gives you a prescription for it, you should ask for them to give you one for the rest of your family too because chances are really good that if you or one of your family members get it then the rest of you will get it too and you really need to start the Tamiflu quick for it to work. Most docs will have no problem righting a prescription for the whole family.

supergrover · Guru

So yesterday I was for sure a no on the boys.

Today I'm not sure again.

ugh.

Does anyone know if they are making a thimersol-free version??

Juanita · Guru

Chickie wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

that's another one of my "cons" against it. I know what they say, but they said the same thing years ago about it, and they said the same thing about Gardisil, and now you're hearing all kinds of horror stories about that one.

Scary

Juni · Guru

Chickie wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

See, someone I know here had it and said (for them) it was NBD but then I wonder if they really had h1n1 or if the doctor just said they did because there was a good chance.

Anyway, could you link to where it shows confirmed cases on the cdc website. I cannot find them! Do they list children also? I was told there was a confirmed case in gavin's preschool class.

I'm so confused about getting the tamiflu within 48 hours of symptoms. How can you do that when they say to treat it like the regular flu and most people I know with the regular flu do not go to the doctor within 48 hours.

sappy · Guru

Juni wrote:

Chickie wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

See, someone I know here had it and said (for them) it was NBD but then I wonder if they really had h1n1 or if the doctor just said they did because there was a good chance.

Anyway, could you link to where it shows confirmed cases on the cdc website. I cannot find them! Do they list children also? I was told there was a confirmed case in gavin's preschool class.

I'm so confused about getting the tamiflu within 48 hours of symptoms. How can you do that when they say to treat it like the regular flu and most people I know with the regular flu do not go to the doctor within 48 hours.

i didn't find a list of people with h1n1 but i did find weekly reports separated into region.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

Corey · Guru

are you sure there is a list of people who have it??

no amount of googling i do is turning one up...

3s_a_crowd · Guru

i would think that would be an invasion of patient privacy rights to list who had the swine flue.

Chickie · Senior Member

Corey wrote:

are you sure there is a list of people who have it??

no amount of googling i do is turning one up...

sorry, I mis-spoke earlier.

When it was happening here in my office, they didn't list names. As soon as someone got the call that it was confirmed, it would immediately be on the website that "a 32 year old female living in Douglas County" has been confirmed, etc.

yes, it would be against hippa laws to post the name.

We just knew who it was because we knew the person they were talking about.

You can find out how many confirmed cases there are in your area though. I know some of you live in very large areas so that may not be helpful to you. THere are only a million people here and it's divided into a couple of counties, so it's a little more helpful for me.

sorry about the confusion ladies biggrin

CoffeeQueen · Guru

Read this http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/diagnostic_testing_public_qa.htm

The main reason also they are not testing if it is H1N1 is that it does not change how they treat you.

The rapid flu test in the Dr. office does not detect H1N1. From what my Dr. told me is that many are claiming to have the so called swine flu, but in fact just have another strain of flu. I think so many people now just associate flu symptoms and assume that is what they have.

Almost all of the influenza viruses identified so far are 2009 H1N1 influenza A viruses. These viruses remain similar to the virus chosen for the 2009 H1N1 vaccine, and remain susceptible to the antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir with rare exception.

I typically do get the normal flu vaccine with working in a school. We lost a 4 year old to the flu at our school. There is no guarantee with the vaccine as with any vaccine. I mean I have only had the flu once in my life and I am 34.

Alison · Guru

Juanita wrote:

Chickie wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

that's another one of my "cons" against it. I know what they say, but they said the same thing years ago about it, and they said the same thing about Gardisil, and now you're hearing all kinds of horror stories about that one.

Scary

That worries me too; not just the vaccine by itself, by all the vaccines we're advised to get. There are no long-term, double-blind studies about the safety of vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies insist that each vaccine is safe in most people, but combined together there is no guarantee. And where do we draw the line? Big Pharma keeps manufacturing new vaccines that we are told are necessary and going to save so many lives, but that means more toxic matter, germs, heavy metals, and foreign animal matter being injected into our children.

If I was going to have Evie get the H1N1 vaccination and the seasonal flu vax at her 6 month WBV, she would be getting 7 injections plus the rotavirus oral vaccine. That's 10 diseases. Vaccines are made from chicken, monkey, and cow cells and blood parts, as well as aborted human fetal cells. Plus many contain aluminum. That's a lot of foreign matter to be injected into a healthy 18 pound 6mo. The more I learn about vaccines, the less comfortable I am.

I am absolutely not anti-vax, don't get me wrong. I just worry about what we are doing to our children's immune systems in the long-term.

-- Edited by Alison on Saturday 10th of October 2009 10:17:53 PM

CoffeeQueen · Guru

Alison wrote:

Juanita wrote:

Chickie wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I'm not getting it and none of my kids are either.

I learned something from my pedi's office just Wednesday. She said that many of these "confirmed" cases you hear about aren't really confirmed. She told me it costs "$500 to actually confirm it as the swine flu, so many places, if it's Type A, are just calling it swine flu.

She said she's sure some of it really is, but not all of the "confirmed" cases because those expensive tests aren't getting run.

I know first hand from having experienced it here, if it's a confirmed case then your name gets posted on the CDC website, so if someone tells you they have it or it's been confirmed all you have to do is look on there and see their name.

Also, it takes about 7 days to get the test results back because all of the tests are being sent to one place (can't remember the state). This was back in May, so I don't know if the turnaround time is any quicker or not now.

It sucks to have to be quaranteened for a week and not knowing if you have it or not.

Something else....some of you may think this is not any worse than the regular flu, and hopefully you won't have to find out, but if you talk to people that have had it, you pretty much feel like you are going to die and it's a good 7 to 14 days before you feel better again. Plus it's extremely contagious, so if you even suspect you have it you should wear a mask before you go in to get tested to help prevent infecting others.

All that being said, I'm not sure if I'm vacinating Nolan or not. I'm just not sure if there's been enough testing.

that's another one of my "cons" against it. I know what they say, but they said the same thing years ago about it, and they said the same thing about Gardisil, and now you're hearing all kinds of horror stories about that one.

Scary

That worries me too; not just the vaccine by itself, by all the vaccines we're advised to get. There are no long-term, double-blind studies about the safety of vaccines. Pharmaceutical companies insist that each vaccine is safe in most people, but combined together there is no guarantee. And where do we draw the line? Big Pharma keeps manufacturing new vaccines that we are told are necessary and going to save so many lives, but that means more toxic matter, germs, heavy metals, and foreign animal matter being injected into our children.
If I was going to have Evie get the H1N1 vaccination and the seasonal flu vax at her 6 month WBV, she would be getting 7 injections plus the rotavirus oral vaccine. That's 10 diseases. Vaccines are made from chicken, monkey, and cow cells and blood parts, as well as aborted human fetal cells. Plus many contain aluminum. That's a lot of foreign matter to be injected into a healthy 18 pound 6mo. The more I learn about vaccines, the less comfortable I am.
I am absolutely not anti-vax, don't get me wrong. I just worry about what we are doing to our children's immune systems in the long-term.

-- Edited by Alison on Saturday 10th of October 2009 10:17:53 PM

Totally agree abot the amount being injected at a time. I am doing an adjusted schedule with Mia. I am not getting them the H1N1 though. I did get reg. flu for her. With Allie in school and me working with tons of germy kids. I really see how quickly viruses spread.

CheleLyn · Senior Member

ihni if i or anyone here will. i got a note from daniels school that the hospital will be at the schools to give the vax via flumist for free to the kids....i'm not comfortable with that right now. daniel has a dr appt tomorrow morning for a booster shot so im going to ask the ped about it...i really trust her about things like this, she's been very open about questions i've had.

i've heard that its made the same way as the seasonal flu vax but i just dont fel like ive had enough time to really learn anything about THIS vax to make an educated decision for all of us.

mally · Senior Member

IHNI... Allyson's best friend's sister had H1N1 over the weekend. Was in the hospital for 2 days...so we are now watching, since Rachel slept here on friday night...Allyson sees her every day at school. I hope it stays contained.

Juanita · Guru

I called the PICU doctor that took care of Presley today, because I trust him a gazillion % and wanted his opinion.

He told me he was very reluctant to recommend the H1N1 vaccine this year. He asked if we got the regular flu vaccines, I told him we had, and he confirmed what the pedi's office told me last week..that most places aren't testing it and confirming it's swine flu but they're treating it as such.

He also said he's had 6 cases of flu this year, and he's testing all of them, and only one has been the swine flu, the rest has been the plain old flu.

He said if it were him and his kids, he'd wait until next year so that furthur studies could be done on the vaccine. In the meantime, get the regular flu shot, use common sense techniques and just keep a close eye on the girls.

Supafly · Guru

Juanita wrote:

I called the PICU doctor that took care of Presley today, because I trust him a gazillion % and wanted his opinion.

He told me he was very reluctant to recommend the H1N1 vaccine this year. He asked if we got the regular flu vaccines, I told him we had, and he confirmed what the pedi's office told me last week..that most places aren't testing it and confirming it's swine flu but they're treating it as such.

He also said he's had 6 cases of flu this year, and he's testing all of them, and only one has been the swine flu, the rest has been the plain old flu.

He said if it were him and his kids, he'd wait until next year so that furthur studies could be done on the vaccine. In the meantime, get the regular flu shot, use common sense techniques and just keep a close eye on the girls.

SO glad you posted this. THANK YOU!!! I have been really wondering if I am making the right choice by skipping the H1N1 vax, and now I feel better about it.

mally · Senior Member

Thanks for posting that.

Allyson's friend's 4 yo sister has been sick since friday night. Very high fever, breathing issues, vomiting, etc...she was admitted for two nights and came home today. They tested her for flu, type A only, but told them they aren't strain testing any of them, but they are 90% sure it's swine flu. I don't understand why they are doing that...