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Read this article and tell me what you think?




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Well Seeing as shes already had one natural birth after her c-section I see her point. But then hospitals have policies so I see theres too. A friend of mine had the same thing and a emergency c-section for that but has had 3 since, vaginally. (the first one of those was in a car on the way to her c-section, but since she knew she could do it she wanted to do the rest that way too). Anyway she went and found the only doctor in town who would allow her to do it.

This woman imo could find a midwife or drive a little farther out of the way perhaps not to put the hospital at odds with what they are told to do.

But to compare trying to save her life and the life of her baby to rape. A little much IMO

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In this case, I am siding with the doctor.

I can totally understand the situation where a crew would not be on hand for an emergency c-section if it were needed. The last town I lived in (and where DH worked in surgery) refused to do VBACS because they did not have an in-house surgery crew available for emergencies...just staff on call who had to respond within 20 minutes of being called in. That is just one of the medical risks you take when you live in a small town (not sure of the size of town in the story, but just speaking in my own experience).

I was always very proud of my DH who literally races in when there is an OB or baby emergency (he always hurries in for other emergencies too, but when it came to a Mom or baby in trouble, he hauls a$$ to get there).

I think if she wants a VBAC, she needs to go to another facility that would provide that service for her. I also don't think anyone is forcing her into a c-section at all. And like I've mentioned in previous debates...health care is a privilege and not a right. (not talking about emergency care...just the overall picture) Her doctor is offering a service that he is comfortable with, and if she doesn't like it, I think she can find a new doctor and facility that suits her needs better.

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If the hospital is that understaffed what are they doing delivering babies at all? Doesn't a vaginal birth require LESS staff than a c-section? What do they do if there is someone that needs an emergency c-section?

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a) I would homebirth or go to another city if I didn't like their policies

b) I wouldn't live in the armpit that is Page AZ

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She is right - she has the right to choose what happens to her body but within that right she needs to recognize the limitations. The hospital has the right to set forth policies and if those policies go against what she wants she needs to go somewhere else. She is off her rocker (IMO!) to liken it to rape. She HAS options.

Although I am wondering - what about other emergency c-sections - how do they handle those if they are not equipped?

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LucsMama wrote:

If the hospital is that understaffed what are they doing delivering babies at all? Doesn't a vaginal birth require LESS staff than a c-section? What do they do if there is someone that needs an emergency c-section?




 But a VBAC poses a higher risk for an emergency c-section than just a regular vaginal birth so the chances of needing more staff are a lot greater in her situation.

I do agree with you but I think that what they are doing is setting a general policy so that they are not overwhelmed with people wanting vbacs. It's easier to say no to everybody and be more prepared than having that option, kwim?



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Grant and I were talking about this last night- that if we were to move forward with TTC #3 in the next few years, what kind of delivery would we have? Probably a C-Section and I am okay with that. Surely I am. I'm perfectly okay with my OB/GYN saying, "C-Section."
If the hospital is that understaffed that they can't guarantee that in an emergency a c-section could be performed quickly with the right amount of people then she could either move forward to another OB/GYN in a neighboring town/city with a better staffed hospital that could oblige her wishes.
This whole thing is kind of silly to me. To me, I think both parties are being kind of absurd in the matter. Shouldn't what's most important be the safe delivery of the baby no matter the means?


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a) I would homebirth or go to another city if I didn't like their policies

b) I wouldn't live in the armpit that is Page AZ




 ITA.  IDK anything about Page, AZ, but I would go elsewhere, even if it was farther away.  To be quite honest, I would be pretty anxious about delivering at a hospital that wasn't equipped to handle emergencies regardless.  I never expected to be in that situation, but I was.  Even if I were a vaginal delivery mom, I would think twice about delivering at that hospital.



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I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.

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Juanita wrote:

I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.



I absolutely agree. I'm curious what kind of editor allowed an article with that many typo's to be released... placental eruption???

 



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Juanita wrote:

I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.



ITA. 100%.

 



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Picture-Perfect wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.



I absolutely agree. I'm curious what kind of editor allowed an article with that many typo's to be released... placental eruption???

 



OMGosh.  I caught that, too, and was dying laughing.  I had visions of volcanos and eruptions as they had to do with a placenta.

 



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Picture-Perfect wrote:

Juanita wrote:

I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.



I absolutely agree. I'm curious what kind of editor allowed an article with that many typo's to be released... placental eruption???

 



LOL, I thought the same thing!  It's like volcano I guess

 



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LDSMOM wrote:

Picture-Perfect wrote:

 

Juanita wrote:

I think she needs to find somewhere else to deliver.  Period..

Hospitals make policies to insure the safety of the patients.  If they felt that policy was necessary, then it's necessary. 

If she doesn't like it, go somewhere else.

To compare it to rape is stupid, and an insult to rape victims.



I absolutely agree. I'm curious what kind of editor allowed an article with that many typo's to be released... placental eruption???

 



OMGosh.  I caught that, too, and was dying laughing.  I had visions of volcanos and eruptions as they had to do with a placenta.

 



I just said the same thing, LOL

 



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I know that if my hospital couldn't handle emergency c-sections, I wouldn't even try to have a vaginal delivery there. Most women I know who had their first c-sections were emergency sections!

I wouldn't go so far as to say it doesn't matter how you deliver because c-sections do carry risks and are unpleasant when they can be avoided, so I understand her not wanting one when there is no reason for one. However, there are options, like forget that hospital if you don't like it!

And to compare it to rape makes her lose all credibility. If she decided not to be hyperbolic and insulting to victims of real crimes, she would have a pretty interesting story. 30% of women need a c-section, but this hospital isn't equipped for c-sections unless scheduled in advance. That, in itself, is a darn good story. Add in that they won't consider a VBAC, and you have some human interest. Add in that you feel it akin to rape, and we all shake our head muttering "nut case".



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Woman. GO to a different hospital!?

If you wanted a second opinion for any other medical matter you wouldn't hesitate in going elsewhere. Especially if you feel so damn strongly about it!

I can see the point of not wanting to be forced into having a section, cause I sure as hell don't want one - but if it were necessary and my only choice I would do it.

If I had the option to go elsewhere for medical assistance I would do that too.

Get a grip of yourself, and stop fishing for sympathy.

*end rant*

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So here is an update http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/15/hospitals.ban.vbacs/index.html

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