holy terrible twos....

daisy · Guru

holy terrible twos....

Sonya · Guru

Mine situation is different but similarly frustrating.

Our little monster is getting in trouble every day at daycare for acting silly. Acting silly at nap, acting silly at meals. She's been removed from the table numerous times and has had her bed moved all around the daycare room trying to get her to act properly.

Her response when her teachers ask her about her behaviour? "It's funny. I'm hilarious." and then she laughs her head off.

They don't call them the terrible twos for nothing.

She also will have throw down screaming fits if she doesn't get her way but for now, is pretty accomidating as these things go. She did scream all the way home from the playground last night because charlie tried to climb into the stroller. ALL.THE.WAY. I'm pretty sure someone thought we were beating her.

I feel your pain. I'm trying not to fuss about it. She's two. It can only get worse. lmao.

sappy · Guru

i just want to say i'm sorry. how rough.

bennett is not quite 18 months but the other day he started this new thing.....

when he's mad at me he crosses his arms, makes a "humph" sound and whips his head the other way.

i'm sure my time is coming.

daisy · Guru

Sonya wrote:

Mine situation is different but similarly frustrating.

Our little monster is getting in trouble every day at daycare for acting silly. Acting silly at nap, acting silly at meals. She's been removed from the table numerous times and has had her bed moved all around the daycare room trying to get her to act properly.

Her response when her teachers ask her about her behaviour? "It's funny. I'm hilarious." and then she laughs her head off.

They don't call them the terrible twos for nothing.

She also will have throw down screaming fits if she doesn't get her way but for now, is pretty accomidating as these things go. She did scream all the way home from the playground last night because charlie tried to climb into the stroller. ALL.THE.WAY. I'm pretty sure someone thought we were beating her.

I feel your pain. I'm trying not to fuss about it. She's two. It can only get worse. lmao.

ug. that is HILARIOUS that she's the class clown in daycare - love it - these two are pieces of work.

I'm trying to take it in stride also -- but yesterday she really stretched me to a limit. i had a bad night, lots of yelling :(

still feel guilty. but i guess it happens.

such a tough age. i cant believe i had a newborn when R was 2 - that must have been brutal (i dont even really remember the 2s for R - i was so focused on the colic!)

Juanita · Guru

daisy wrote:

you guys, C is making me NUTS.
the second i sit down, she needs to be picked up. which i love. i love. but then she dictates WHERE in the house i have to stand, etc.
yesterday i tried the supermarket TWICE and had to abandon the cart one of those times. the other time, she was too cranky to even get out of the car. NIGHTMARE.
then she had a FIT at the toystore (i was buying puzzles) - like a throw-down, vomitting FIT, and wouldnt let me pick her up.
and i cant even tell you what went on in the parking lot.
the guy from the grocery store literally followed me out and told me that i "shouldnt leave her on her own" (????? youre KIDDING ME?!????) bc she could run into the street - DUH!!!!
she's humiliating me!!!
ACK!
make it stop!!!
R was NEVER this bad!!!!
tell me youre going through something similar?! please?!?

okay, not to pick this apart, but what do you mean she DICTATES? I totally understand the terrible two's, they're learning independance and all that, but Kelly, surely to don't let her tell YOU what to do..because if you do, you've got to stop that like NOW!

What do you do to discipline her when she acts like that?

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:15:27 AM

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 10:20:48 AM

Juanita · Guru

Sonya wrote:

Mine situation is different but similarly frustrating.

Our little monster is getting in trouble every day at daycare for acting silly. Acting silly at nap, acting silly at meals. She's been removed from the table numerous times and has had her bed moved all around the daycare room trying to get her to act properly.

Her response when her teachers ask her about her behaviour? "It's funny. I'm hilarious." and then she laughs her head off.

They don't call them the terrible twos for nothing.

She also will have throw down screaming fits if she doesn't get her way but for now, is pretty accomidating as these things go. She did scream all the way home from the playground last night because charlie tried to climb into the stroller. ALL.THE.WAY. I'm pretty sure someone thought we were beating her.

I feel your pain. I'm trying not to fuss about it. She's two. It can only get worse. lmao.

Sorry, but this is funny

Wonder where in the sam hill she gets this class clown business? wink

Juanita · Guru

sappy wrote:

i just want to say i'm sorry. how rough.

bennett is not quite 18 months but the other day he started this new thing.....

when he's mad at me he crosses his arms, makes a "humph" sound and whips his head the other way.

i'm sure my time is coming.

this is funny too!!

kdrew · Guru

UGH!!! I've definitely gone through that. I've always tried to avoid taking my kids to the grocery store. It was always worth it for me to wait for my husband to get home or do weekend shopping. I think I had one kid who I could take for a while without a scene. I still hate taking Sarah and am sooooo lucky we have a playplace/free daycare at our grocery store.

I feel so bad for you!!! I couldn't take Jack ANYWHERE for years. And forget trying to take him to the park and eventually trying to leave. Full out meltdown.

I can say that he's 9 now and although he's defininitely not perfect, he did grow out of what your daughter is going through by 4.

Tiffany · Senior Member

Oh yeah, Van has his days... and I know you'll probably laugh at me when I say this but I've been learning alot from Caesar Milan to work with my dog and it works... AND I could swear his methods works with kids as well!!! Patience, constitant (sp?)... Caesar salso says many people confuse discpline and punishment. They need the discpline, and in my eyes, kids do need that too. Not saying that you are NOT discpling. But I'm just saying, that dude is hot and he gives the BEST advices for dog owners and it relates to humans as well! I've learned how to deal with people as well. Funny but true. So I've learned to be constinant with Van and I get down to his level. Ignore his tantrums (same as you would ignore a dogs excitement, jumping, etc cause you are "feeding" it if you make eye contact, touch or talking to them. You get the idea... :)

Juanita · Guru

Tiffany wrote:

Oh yeah, Van has his days... and I know you'll probably laugh at me when I say this but I've been learning alot from Caesar Milan to work with my dog and it works... AND I could swear his methods works with kids as well!!! Patience, constitant (sp?)... Caesar salso says many people confuse discpline and punishment. They need the discpline, and in my eyes, kids do need that too. Not saying that you are NOT discpling. But I'm just saying, that dude is hot and he gives the BEST advices for dog owners and it relates to humans as well! I've learned how to deal with people as well. Funny but true. So I've learned to be constinant with Van and I get down to his level. Ignore his tantrums (same as you would ignore a dogs excitement, jumping, etc cause you are "feeding" it if you make eye contact, touch or talking to them. You get the idea... :)

I could see that..

Juanita · Guru

I don't know, maybe I'm blessed, or maybe I run a tight ship, lol, but I've never had any trouble with my kids at a grocery store--ever.

I guess they know what I expect them to act like in public, I don't know, or maybe I've been extremely lucky. But so far the 2 out of 3 have been fine. I think Kenley will be fine too, but she may fool me, lol

daisy · Guru

Juanita wrote:

daisy wrote:

you guys, C is making me NUTS.
the second i sit down, she needs to be picked up. which i love. i love. but then she dictates WHERE in the house i have to stand, etc.
yesterday i tried the supermarket TWICE and had to abandon the cart one of those times. the other time, she was too cranky to even get out of the car. NIGHTMARE.
then she had a FIT at the toystore (i was buying puzzles) - like a throw-down, vomitting FIT, and wouldnt let me pick her up.
and i cant even tell you what went on in the parking lot.
the guy from the grocery store literally followed me out and told me that i "shouldnt leave her on her own" (????? youre KIDDING ME?!????) bc she could run into the street - DUH!!!!
she's humiliating me!!!
ACK!
make it stop!!!
R was NEVER this bad!!!!
tell me youre going through something similar?! please?!?

okay, not to pick this apart, but what do you mean she DICTATES? I totally understand the terrible two's, they're learning independance and all that, but Kelly, surely to don't let her tell YOU what to do..because if you do, you've got to stop that like NOW!
What do you do to discipline her when she acts like that?

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:15:27 AM

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 10:20:48 AM

no no, she tries to dictate, but if it becomes a massive tantrum when i tell her that mommy needs to walk around, or go in the LR, or whatever, she gets a timeout for that "to calm down" etc- totally getting disciplined and not getting away with this stuff, and i'm ignoring the tantrums when needed, etc - the whole bit - just exhausting though!!

kris · Guru

Kate oh Kate!

She is definitely drama if she doesn't get her way. Will melt to the ground in a heap and just scream. Most of the time I just walk out of the room. Seriously, she's my
3rd kid - I don't have time for that crap biggrin

I really have to keep myself in check in situations where little john and Jake are involved and she doesn't get her way and looses it. It is very easy to just make them give her what she wants to keep her happy but that is a recipe for disaster and not fair to them. So I'm having to reason with her that she cannot have Jake's stuffed hamster b/c it is his and he's playing with it (when making him share would stop her meltdown!) and that when he's done he will share with her.

She will wail on Jake with a toy or something. I told John she is seriously just going to beat the crap out of him when she gets bigger. He will be sitting, playing nicely and she'll take a hot wheel and just pummel him repeatedly in the head with it!

I have avoided grocery shopping with my two little ones unless it's absolutely necessary. I just can't handle the stress. I'm just now getting to the point where I am taking them on adventures together . . . just now have gotten my confidence up I guess!

Daycare she doesn't get in trouble. They

her. The only time she gets time out is for taking her shoes off.

She is however still getting up in the middle of the night. Screaming, crying, asking to be rocked. DH and I are so sleep deprived we're about to crash. I let her CIO last night the first time she did it around 12:30 and she went back to sleep but she was at it again around 3:30 and John got up with her.

I am lucky in that working from home two days a week while they are in daycare let's me get some errands done. I do not envy those Mommas who have to do all domestic tasks with a 2 and 4 year old present. I would never get anything done!!!

Juanita · Guru

daisy wrote:

Juanita wrote:

daisy wrote:

you guys, C is making me NUTS.
the second i sit down, she needs to be picked up. which i love. i love. but then she dictates WHERE in the house i have to stand, etc.
yesterday i tried the supermarket TWICE and had to abandon the cart one of those times. the other time, she was too cranky to even get out of the car. NIGHTMARE.
then she had a FIT at the toystore (i was buying puzzles) - like a throw-down, vomitting FIT, and wouldnt let me pick her up.
and i cant even tell you what went on in the parking lot.
the guy from the grocery store literally followed me out and told me that i "shouldnt leave her on her own" (????? youre KIDDING ME?!????) bc she could run into the street - DUH!!!!
she's humiliating me!!!
ACK!
make it stop!!!
R was NEVER this bad!!!!
tell me youre going through something similar?! please?!?

okay, not to pick this apart, but what do you mean she DICTATES? I totally understand the terrible two's, they're learning independance and all that, but Kelly, surely to don't let her tell YOU what to do..because if you do, you've got to stop that like NOW!
What do you do to discipline her when she acts like that?

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:15:27 AM

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 10:20:48 AM

no no, she tries to dictate, but if it becomes a massive tantrum when i tell her that mommy needs to walk around, or go in the LR, or whatever, she gets a timeout for that "to calm down" etc- totally getting disciplined and not getting away with this stuff, and i'm ignoring the tantrums when needed, etc - the whole bit - just exhausting though!!

okay gotcha..i got nothing else, lol

i haven't had to deal with any of this stuff, honestly, so i have no idea what to tell you to do.

time-outs have NEVER worked around my house, i have spanked their bottoms before, and now just the threat is enough to stop it, but i know that everyone doesn't believe in that, that's just what works for us

the whole "spare the rod spoils the child" thing, lol (i don't use a rod though smile )

Supafly · Guru

Yikes. I am sorry Kelly. It seriously wears you out and wears you down, doesn't it?

I haven't been forced to leave a store because of Kate, but she can be a serious terror.

She was getting better for a while and now she is getting worse again. IHNI what i going on with her, but her behavior lately has been HORRID. She has been in time out a lot and has lost a LOT of her friends from her bed.

And she is NOT using the potty as a control thing. She will for her teacher, my mother, anyone else, but she will NOT go if I bring it up. Her fave things to do lately always involve my telling her that if she keeps up whatever she is doing/does something again, she will be in time out. Needless to say, she ends up in time out screaming her head off.

Anna just asked the other day for a different sister.

daisy · Guru

Juanita wrote:

I don't know, maybe I'm blessed, or maybe I run a tight ship, lol, but I've never had any trouble with my kids at a grocery store--ever.

I guess they know what I expect them to act like in public, I don't know, or maybe I've been extremely lucky. But so far the 2 out of 3 have been fine. I think Kenley will be fine too, but she may fool me, lol

i think it's luck jenn :)

R was never this way, and from what i can tell, i'm not doing much differently. some are fierce and they'll let you know it, and some can control it way better. i've had one of each, and NO ONE was more spoiled than R, so...i dunno.

i really do think it's personality. and i love her for it. but yeah, exhausting.

Juni · Guru

Juanita wrote:

I don't know, maybe I'm blessed, or maybe I run a tight ship, lol, but I've never had any trouble with my kids at a grocery store--ever.

I guess they know what I expect them to act like in public, I don't know, or maybe I've been extremely lucky. But so far the 2 out of 3 have been fine. I think Kenley will be fine too, but she may fool me, lol

I'd say you are definitely blessed!

allvowels · Veteran Member

Oh, Kelly, big hugs!!!

I swear that there should be some study done about babies with colic and how they are as 2 year olds. I feel like Emilia has been colicky all over again this whole year, except this time is worse because she's too big to bounce on the exercise ball! haha

I feel even more bad for you and your situation ---the only time Emilia is somewhat pleasant is out in public, so I was lucky there. (Although I don't get much sympathy---all of my friends are like, "Emilia gives you problems?! She's SO sweet!" I am like, "She is seriously a different person at home.....all she does is whine, fuss, cry, throw fits, etc.")

Oh, funny story about that though---I was on the phone with my friend the other day while I was driving (oops!). Emilia was having a huge fit about who knows what in her carseat. My friend goes, "Can I let you go? That crying is hurting my ears." We both started laughing---if it was hurting her ears through the phone, just imagine what it was like being in the van with her! I was like, "See?!?! Do you see now what I have to deal with alllllll the time?!" haha

I don't have any advice. I am just praying that it ends here sooooooon. Hopefully Cara's rough time will be much more short-lived!!!

Chica650 · Member

daisy wrote:

Juanita wrote:

daisy wrote:

you guys, C is making me NUTS.
the second i sit down, she needs to be picked up. which i love. i love. but then she dictates WHERE in the house i have to stand, etc.
yesterday i tried the supermarket TWICE and had to abandon the cart one of those times. the other time, she was too cranky to even get out of the car. NIGHTMARE.
then she had a FIT at the toystore (i was buying puzzles) - like a throw-down, vomitting FIT, and wouldnt let me pick her up.
and i cant even tell you what went on in the parking lot.
the guy from the grocery store literally followed me out and told me that i "shouldnt leave her on her own" (????? youre KIDDING ME?!????) bc she could run into the street - DUH!!!!
she's humiliating me!!!
ACK!
make it stop!!!
R was NEVER this bad!!!!
tell me youre going through something similar?! please?!?

okay, not to pick this apart, but what do you mean she DICTATES? I totally understand the terrible two's, they're learning independance and all that, but Kelly, surely to don't let her tell YOU what to do..because if you do, you've got to stop that like NOW!
What do you do to discipline her when she acts like that?

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:15:27 AM

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 10:20:48 AM

no no, she tries to dictate, but if it becomes a massive tantrum when i tell her that mommy needs to walk around, or go in the LR, or whatever, she gets a timeout for that "to calm down" etc- totally getting disciplined and not getting away with this stuff, and i'm ignoring the tantrums when needed, etc - the whole bit - just exhausting though!!

I totally understand what you mean by "tries to dictate". AND I understand that no matter what you do to discipline this behavior, it goes on anyway! Madison is by far the most dramatic when it comes to the temper tantrums and we can ignore it, discipline it, etc and the behavior still continues. Some kids just have a penchant for the tantrums more than others. I truly think it's an inherent quality as much as eye color and hair color are. You can have the most disciplined and organized of parents. They can be calm and rational about all things stressful and those two people can still give birth to a child who throws tantrums. Just one of those things :). Anyhow, I know it's exhausting and thoroughly frustrating, but just hang in there (and hang on tight!) :). She's just a strong-willed free spirit and THAT will be a quality that will serve her very well later in life!

daisy · Guru

Chica650 wrote:

daisy wrote:

Juanita wrote:

daisy wrote:

you guys, C is making me NUTS.
the second i sit down, she needs to be picked up. which i love. i love. but then she dictates WHERE in the house i have to stand, etc.
yesterday i tried the supermarket TWICE and had to abandon the cart one of those times. the other time, she was too cranky to even get out of the car. NIGHTMARE.
then she had a FIT at the toystore (i was buying puzzles) - like a throw-down, vomitting FIT, and wouldnt let me pick her up.
and i cant even tell you what went on in the parking lot.
the guy from the grocery store literally followed me out and told me that i "shouldnt leave her on her own" (????? youre KIDDING ME?!????) bc she could run into the street - DUH!!!!
she's humiliating me!!!
ACK!
make it stop!!!
R was NEVER this bad!!!!
tell me youre going through something similar?! please?!?

okay, not to pick this apart, but what do you mean she DICTATES? I totally understand the terrible two's, they're learning independance and all that, but Kelly, surely to don't let her tell YOU what to do..because if you do, you've got to stop that like NOW!
What do you do to discipline her when she acts like that?

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 08:15:27 AM

-- Edited by Juanita on Friday 2nd of October 2009 10:20:48 AM

no no, she tries to dictate, but if it becomes a massive tantrum when i tell her that mommy needs to walk around, or go in the LR, or whatever, she gets a timeout for that "to calm down" etc- totally getting disciplined and not getting away with this stuff, and i'm ignoring the tantrums when needed, etc - the whole bit - just exhausting though!!

I totally understand what you mean by "tries to dictate". AND I understand that no matter what you do to discipline this behavior, it goes on anyway! Madison is by far the most dramatic when it comes to the temper tantrums and we can ignore it, discipline it, etc and the behavior still continues. Some kids just have a penchant for the tantrums more than others. I truly think it's an inherent quality as much as eye color and hair color are. You can have the most disciplined and organized of parents. They can be calm and rational about all things stressful and those two people can still give birth to a child who throws tantrums. Just one of those things :). Anyhow, I know it's exhausting and thoroughly frustrating, but just hang in there (and hang on tight!) :). She's just a strong-willed free spirit and THAT will be a quality that will serve her very well later in life!

thanks, and ITA. inherent. this child has been tough from day one, and it comes with BEAUTIFUL traits as well (ie, she gets me laughing so hard i cant even finish reading a book sometimes) - and she has this raw honesty about her that is hard to pinpoint right now, but there's just something very real and gritty about her that is VERY appealing.

i have talked to several other colicky-infant moms and they all agree, becky, that the 2s were really hard - i think there's something to it!!