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ok, so i just spent the last hour "rehabilitating" emily.

every time she screamed for something she didn't like jake was doing (like going up the stairs :eyeroll:), she went up in her room.

as soon as she came out the first time, she started screaming about jake on the stairs again.

back in her room.

next time she came out, i told her we were going downstairs to play while i made lunch. she wanted to go outside and i told her she needed to wait until after her nap later. she said no. back in her room.

finally, she made it out and is downstairs. i've had to warn her that she will go back to her room only once.

maybe going in her room is a better punishment for her than a traditional time out in our time out chair. idk. i just have to find something to start curbing my behavior that is making me love her, but not like her very much right now.

does anyone have any input about putting her (them) in their rooms? is that bad? :help:




 



We don't, but ONLY because Hannah would find that too fun.

If it works (and it sounds like it definately is) it is NOT bad. (within reason, of course. anyways, ykwim, I hope. Room punishment is totally a-ok)


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April, I think that is totally fine and acceptable.

I wouldn't do it with a kid who was having a hard time with bedtime or something like that because I would worry about the bad association with the bedroom but that isn't Emily's problem.

I think you want to tackle it now before you have to go back to school and it gets worse. You don't want your only time spent with the kids to be painful for you.

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We listed the house last night.

puke.

i'm so nervous now. Both ways.




 I just got here and haven't caught up, so don't repeat if you have already updated, but how is Char feeling?

Yay for listing the house!!!! (though ITU your nervousness about it-I am certain I would feel the same way!)



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Sonya wrote:

We listed the house last night.

puke.

i'm so nervous now. Both ways.




 I just got here and haven't caught up, so don't repeat if you have already updated, but how is Char feeling?

Yay for listing the house!!!! (though ITU your nervousness about it-I am certain I would feel the same way!)



thanks for asking, Supa. He's fine (as far as I know). He seemed perfectly fine this morning so he's gone to daycare.

 



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I got to the end of the first page and I think I had better post before I forget what I want to say!!!

Crystal-I am sorry about the puking-I hope Mason feels better soon.

Sara-You and Mikey always have my prayers and I hope the weekend goes smoothly for you all

Leah-IDK if I missed something about why you didn't sleep, but that sucks.  I hope you get a nap, or that the day goes supa quick

April-good luck with the cleaning-I need to do some of that too.  I am the exact opposite when Bill is away (go figure!).  When he is home, we are both lazy and let the house go, and when he is away, I always clean more.  I think that is the only thing he likes about travelling is that he knows I do more cleaning when he is away, lol.

Muffy-enjoy your day at the beach!!  How was IHOP?

D-you are superwoman!!  How is your friend doing?

Libby-that sweet corn festival sounds like fun!  I hope that E does well in her new room this year.

Hi everyone that I may have missed!!!

On to catch up on page 2...

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omg, this is going to sound terrible but i WISH WISH WISH that today were tuesday.

b/c if it were tuesday, i would be at work and not home with my kids.

i am SO BURNED OUT. i don't even know how i'm going to make it through the day.

i'm so burned out that i don't even have it in me to take them somewhere. i just plain don't want to.

:ahh:

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Staying home all summer when everyone is used to something different is really tough.  Tuesday will be here soon, even though I know it won't be soon enough!!  Plus it is hard when Matt is away and you are doing it on your own.  IDK how yours are, but it is like mine know and they are worse when it is just me around, lol.  Then as soon as Bill returns, they act like they never even missed him and that they have been mommy's angels while he was away, yeah right.

I hope the day goes fast.

Do you ever enlist their help wth cleaning?  A&K love to "help" even though they suck at it, and while it isn't any help to me, it lightens the mood on rough days when I have stuff to do.

 



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i am SO happy that it is naptime.

i need to get out of this funk.

i talked to my dad and he's still going to come down tomorrow. not sure if his wife is coming. we'll play that by ear.

also talked to matt and i'm going to go by school in the morning to get a few things done. i need a couple of hours to myself. then we'll spend the rest of the day with my dad.

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Sonya wrote:

We listed the house last night.

puke.

i'm so nervous now. Both ways.




 I just got here and haven't caught up, so don't repeat if you have already updated, but how is Char feeling?

Yay for listing the house!!!! (though ITU your nervousness about it-I am certain I would feel the same way!)



thanks for asking, Supa. He's fine (as far as I know). He seemed perfectly fine this morning so he's gone to daycare.

 



Oh good.  I am glad to hear that!!!  Sick kids plus listing a house???  Um...NO.

I hope everyone stays well in your house from here on out...

 



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I have a very busy weekend. Today I have to go to the post office and the hospital to pick up my kids vaccine records. THen I have to go shopping for groceries and a baby gift.

Tommorrow I have a baby shower and sunday we have church.

Yesterday we had to replace the battery in my van after it wouldnt start while I was at a gas station 2 miles from my house. I had to walk home. In jeans and flipflops that gave me a blister. in 97 degree heat.

I had the carseats and dh had the kids.

Ugh

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apies wrote:

omg, this is going to sound terrible but i WISH WISH WISH that today were tuesday.

b/c if it were tuesday, i would be at work and not home with my kids.

i am SO BURNED OUT. i don't even know how i'm going to make it through the day.

i'm so burned out that i don't even have it in me to take them somewhere. i just plain don't want to.

:ahh:

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Staying home all summer when everyone is used to something different is really tough.  Tuesday will be here soon, even though I know it won't be soon enough!!  Plus it is hard when Matt is away and you are doing it on your own.  IDK how yours are, but it is like mine know and they are worse when it is just me around, lol.  Then as soon as Bill returns, they act like they never even missed him and that they have been mommy's angels while he was away, yeah right.

I hope the day goes fast.

Do you ever enlist their help wth cleaning?  A&K love to "help" even though they suck at it, and while it isn't any help to me, it lightens the mood on rough days when I have stuff to do.

 

 




thanks laura.  mine have just been a handful lately, regardless of where matt is.

next summer i'm looking into putting emily into some sort of camp 3 half days per week or something.  i just cannot do this again.  i know that we are all miserable and i will go through this again.

they do like to vacuum, etc.  we may try that later.  i was hoping to weed the front landscaping, but it is getting really dark again, so i'm guessing the rain is not far off.

is it raining there?



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apies wrote:

omg, this is going to sound terrible but i WISH WISH WISH that today were tuesday.

b/c if it were tuesday, i would be at work and not home with my kids.

i am SO BURNED OUT. i don't even know how i'm going to make it through the day.

i'm so burned out that i don't even have it in me to take them somewhere. i just plain don't want to.

:ahh:

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Ugh!  Can you get your babysitter for just a couple of hours?  It sounds like you need a little breathing room.  It's also probably worse since Matt has been gone.  I know that when Robert is gone Elizabeth is always more difficult.  I hope something happens soon in your day to make things better.

 




 LOL, I should have kept reading!!!  Hi5 on that one, LIbby!!!!



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3s_a_crowd wrote:

I have a very busy weekend. Today I have to go to the post office and the hospital to pick up my kids vaccine records. THen I have to go shopping for groceries and a baby gift.

Tommorrow I have a baby shower and sunday we have church.

Yesterday we had to replace the battery in my van after it wouldnt start while I was at a gas station 2 miles from my house. I had to walk home. In jeans and flipflops that gave me a blister. in 97 degree heat.

I had the carseats and dh had the kids.

Ugh



night.mare.

 



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apies wrote:

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apies wrote:

omg, this is going to sound terrible but i WISH WISH WISH that today were tuesday.

b/c if it were tuesday, i would be at work and not home with my kids.

i am SO BURNED OUT. i don't even know how i'm going to make it through the day.

i'm so burned out that i don't even have it in me to take them somewhere. i just plain don't want to.

:ahh:

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Ugh!  Can you get your babysitter for just a couple of hours?  It sounds like you need a little breathing room.  It's also probably worse since Matt has been gone.  I know that when Robert is gone Elizabeth is always more difficult.  I hope something happens soon in your day to make things better.

 

 




she was just here yesterday while i was at work.

that makes me feel even worse.

emily is just SO SO SO high maintenance and i'm just SO over it.  but how do you fix that?!?!?!

i am just going to let them watch tv all day.  if it stops raining, i'll go outside and weed.  maybe they'll leave me alone for a bit if i do that.




 Can you give examples? 

Kate is definitely drama, though IHNI if her things are at all like Em's.  Here is an example: Kate is a pita at meals.  We can't give her things like bread or whatever until she has eaten most of what she is supposed to eat.  Anna will finish faster and get her bread, for example.  Kate will ask for hers very sweetly and I will tell her she can have her bread as soon as she finishes/eats x number of bites of her dinner.  She will be reduced then to whining, throwing her spoon, crying big crocodile tears, slumping in her seat because she didn't get her way.  I tell her not to throw things and if she does again, she goes to time out.  Sometimes she ends up in time out, sometimes not.  Then she continues to cry about the bread and refusing to eat.  I refuse to get into this with her and let her see that she has pissed me off, as that fuels her like nothing else.  So I tell her the choice is hers, she can either eat her food and get her bread or be all done with nothing more.  At first, and for a long while, she would refuse to eat anymore to see if I would cave.  Then she started eating her food as asked but would whine for the bread instead of ask for it.  So I started telling her I would not respond to her whining and that I could not understand what she was saying.  If she would like to ask for her bread in a happy voice, I would be happy to get it for her.  Again, for a few weeks/months/however long it was (it felt like forever) she would refuse to ask nicely to see if I would cave.  Then she finally started asking nicely.  She still starts now with a grunt or a whine over these things, but as soon as I say I can't understand her, she will ask nicely and then she gets what she wants.  It took MONTHS and MONTHS to break her of it, and many times that I wanted to scream and throw my own plate against the wall because she was pissing me off so much, but I couldn't let her win. 

She is like this about a lot of things.  It is a draining process.  But it works if I give it long enough, so I just keep trying.

Ok, that was a book.  Sorry for the unsolicitated input.



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apies wrote:

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apies wrote:

omg, this is going to sound terrible but i WISH WISH WISH that today were tuesday.

b/c if it were tuesday, i would be at work and not home with my kids.

i am SO BURNED OUT. i don't even know how i'm going to make it through the day.

i'm so burned out that i don't even have it in me to take them somewhere. i just plain don't want to.

:ahh:

cry.gif



((((HUG)))) (cause I don't know the emoticon here for that)

Staying home all summer when everyone is used to something different is really tough.  Tuesday will be here soon, even though I know it won't be soon enough!!  Plus it is hard when Matt is away and you are doing it on your own.  IDK how yours are, but it is like mine know and they are worse when it is just me around, lol.  Then as soon as Bill returns, they act like they never even missed him and that they have been mommy's angels while he was away, yeah right.

I hope the day goes fast.

Do you ever enlist their help wth cleaning?  A&K love to "help" even though they suck at it, and while it isn't any help to me, it lightens the mood on rough days when I have stuff to do.

 

 




thanks laura.  mine have just been a handful lately, regardless of where matt is.

next summer i'm looking into putting emily into some sort of camp 3 half days per week or something.  i just cannot do this again.  i know that we are all miserable and i will go through this again.

they do like to vacuum, etc.  we may try that later.  i was hoping to weed the front landscaping, but it is getting really dark again, so i'm guessing the rain is not far off.

is it raining there?




 Yes.  There are some nasty thunderstorms here, but not directly over us for now.  Thankfully they both fell asleep before it started rumbling, so they seem to be ok with it so far.  The storms last night woke them both up, so they are tired and desperately needed the rest.



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Sonya wrote:

We listed the house last night.

puke.

i'm so nervous now. Both ways.




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sappy wrote:

my kids were up at 5:30 again.

i just put bennett down for his nap and i put caroline back in bed too. she has a cold and has been nasty already this morning. she usually doesn't nap but she has school today and she'll just be BEAT if she doesn't rest.

it's quiet in here. i should be cleaning but i just don't want to. i'll do that later.




 Oh good holy God.  I hate those early mornings.  Anna was up at 5:30 this AM too, but went back to her room for a little while, thankfully.

On those early days, I feel the same way come naptime.  I can NOt get myself to clean because I am so spent from the morning!!!



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happylib wrote:

Hi Robin!  It really rained here last night so I am hoping it keeps the ground soft enough to make weeding easier.   I hope your garden is much better shape than mine.  I am a little disgusted because the puppy has really done a number on some things, including my squash.  It was really growing well and yesterday I went out back to find the plant dug up and in pieces all over the backyard. evileye Any suggestions on dog proofing plants?



Re: dogproofing

When I started my little vegetable garden, I fenced off a corner of my yard so Holly couldn't get in there.

I also planted a few flowers and things where she could get to them, and she didn't mess with them.

I guess Holly isn't a plant dog.


 



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tracy - i cannot believe you walked 2 miles dressed like that in vegas heat. i would have called a f'n cab!

supa, there are so many things about emily that are SO hard to deal with. i just lose patience with her! not long, drawn-out incidents like what you described with kate. more a lot of little things that make me nuts. here are a few of what i'm talking about...

repeating the same thing over and over and over. "mom, what doing? mom, what doing? mom, what doing?" etc etc etc. we even say, "emily, how many times do you say it?" and she says 'one time." but she doesn't REMEMBER. she just keeps repeating things OVER AND OVER.

she is SO clingy and has almost NO independent playing skills. jake will go off and play with his trains or cars or puzzles or whatever. emily hangs all over me. if i'm sitting on the couch, not only does she want to sit on the same couch (and not the other couch or her anywhere chair), she has to sit so that she's practically on TOP of me. the clingyness is almost unbearable.

she SCREAMS in response to anything and everything jake does. if jake PRETENDS to throw his fork at her at a meal, she screams. if jake takes a toy from her, she screams. if jake opens the door to the bathroom, she screams. if she is coming down the stairs and jake starts to go up the stairs, she screams. if jake touches her cup, she screams. if i ask her to go get something, jake will race and do it first, so she screams. if she goes into the laundry room, jake will close the door, so she screams. do you get the picture with that? seriously, screaming.all.day.

i just need some breathing room and with her clinginess combined with her unwillingness to play independently, i just am drowning in her right now.

i finally told her today while i was making lunch that she had 2 choices - she could go in the other room and play with jake or she could go back up in her room and play by herself.

i just have got to put my foot down and get some of this behavior stopped. it's just insanity.

the clingyness is so bad that i'm actually going to talk to her teacher at the beginning of the year and make sure they're not allowing it there. i know that last year with a 6:3 student/teacher ratio, she had a LOT of attention from the teachers. when i took her to the gym daycare over the summer, they were quick to point out how clingy she was and how unwilling she was to go play on her own. we HAVE to find a way to solve this.



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Hey!


My neighbor's son is getting married tomorrow and I'm doing the flowers and the decorating the cake.  I just did the bride's bouquet.  Fun, fun, fun!

I also am the photographer at the wedding.  (Can you say budget wedding?)  Anywho if anyone has some fabulous poses you loved from your pics. please let me know!




My neighbor is a photo and has really been picking up a lot of weddings lately.  She is very good!  She has a lot of her pics on her website if you want to look at them.

She also says to have the people give her a list of pics they definitely want so that she has something to work with that day.

http://www.mandysrokaphotography.com/

Good luck with the wedding, that is so exciting!!!!  (but dang, you are doing a lot of work!!)

 



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tracy - i cannot believe you walked 2 miles dressed like that in vegas heat. i would have called a f'n cab!

supa, there are so many things about emily that are SO hard to deal with. i just lose patience with her! not long, drawn-out incidents like what you described with kate. more a lot of little things that make me nuts. here are a few of what i'm talking about...

repeating the same thing over and over and over. "mom, what doing? mom, what doing? mom, what doing?" etc etc etc. we even say, "emily, how many times do you say it?" and she says 'one time." but she doesn't REMEMBER. she just keeps repeating things OVER AND OVER.

she is SO clingy and has almost NO independent playing skills. jake will go off and play with his trains or cars or puzzles or whatever. emily hangs all over me. if i'm sitting on the couch, not only does she want to sit on the same couch (and not the other couch or her anywhere chair), she has to sit so that she's practically on TOP of me. the clingyness is almost unbearable.

she SCREAMS in response to anything and everything jake does. if jake PRETENDS to throw his fork at her at a meal, she screams. if jake takes a toy from her, she screams. if jake opens the door to the bathroom, she screams. if she is coming down the stairs and jake starts to go up the stairs, she screams. if jake touches her cup, she screams. if i ask her to go get something, jake will race and do it first, so she screams. if she goes into the laundry room, jake will close the door, so she screams. do you get the picture with that? seriously, screaming.all.day.

i just need some breathing room and with her clinginess combined with her unwillingness to play independently, i just am drowning in her right now.

i finally told her today while i was making lunch that she had 2 choices - she could go in the other room and play with jake or she could go back up in her room and play by herself.

i just have got to put my foot down and get some of this behavior stopped. it's just insanity.

the clingyness is so bad that i'm actually going to talk to her teacher at the beginning of the year and make sure they're not allowing it there. i know that last year with a 6:3 student/teacher ratio, she had a LOT of attention from the teachers. when i took her to the gym daycare over the summer, they were quick to point out how clingy she was and how unwilling she was to go play on her own. we HAVE to find a way to solve this.



Good for you for giving her those choices!!!  She is going to have to learn, hard as that is.  Anna is no where near as needy, but she does want me to play with her all the time and complains that there is no one to play with (because Kate plays very well on her own and much of the time prefers that).  But with her, I can tell her, "Anna, I am doing __________ right now, but I will set this timer for __________ minutes and when the timer goes off, I can play that game with you.  While you wait, why don't you try doing _________?"  That works fine with her, as long as I stick by what I say.

As far as screaming, honestly, I would sit her down and tell her that is not an appropriate way to respond to things.  I would tell her she needs to use her words, and that if she can not do that, she is going to start being put into time out when she screams (or whatever punishment works).  I would start by giving one warning (I have done this with other things with both of mine, "This is your warning.  The next time you scream/whatever the offense is, you will go to time out.  Do you understand?"), then time out.  Then back it down to being an automatic time out, and remind her when you punish her and after that instead of screaming, she needs to use her words. 

As for the saying things over and over again, I have no advice.  Anna is terrible about that too, and I just tune it out, lmao.  Once in a while, It will get under my skin and I will say, "Anna, I heard you the first time, and the second time, and the third time..."

I hope you can find some things that work for you all.  It is so hard to deal with these things!!!!

 



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