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Why we get fat - anyone read it?
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I just discovered it and had an OMG moment!  For me, I have a hard time reconciling the fact that I gain weight while my sister (who eats worse than I did) doesn't.  Also, I have maintained my weight (albeit a high weight) for the last 3 years - so has she (but at a lower weight).  so, we are both able  to remain weight stable over long period of times, but i am higher - what gives?  

So, this book explains the "why" of it.  and it all makes perfect sense.  i am copying here but it is the theory:

First, obese people tend to be weight stable for long periods of their life, just like lean people. So when they’re weight stable, the obese and overweight are obviously in energy balance. They’re not overeating during these periods of stable weight. They’re eating to match their expenditure, doing exactly what the lean do (and get copious credit for). So one obvious question is why the overweight and obese are only in energy balance when they’re carrying 10, 20, 30 or maybe 100 pounds of excess fat, and lean people are in energy balance without the excess? What’s the culprit for that? Because the problem isn’t that the obese overeat when they’re obese, it’s that they overeat when they’re lean and they continue to overeat until they become obese.

Second, let’s say you’re carrying around 40 pounds of excess fat and you put on that 40 pounds over the course of 20 years, as many of us do. When you’re in your late 20s, say, you’re still lean, and then, lo and behold, you celebrate your fiftieth birthday and you’re obese and your doctor is lecturing you on eating less and getting to the gym regularly (and probably writing you a prescription for Lipitor, as well). Now, if you gain 40 pounds of fat over 20 years, that’s an average of two pounds of excess fat accumulation every year. Since a pound of fat is roughly equal to 3500 calories, this means you accumulate roughly 7000 calories worth of fat every year. Divide that 7000 by 365 and you get the number of calories of fat you stored each day and never burned – roughly 19 calories. Let’s round up to 20 calories, so we have a nice round number. (In the new book I discuss this issue in a chapter called “The Significance of Twenty Calories a Day.”)  So now the question: if all you have to do to become obese is store 20 extra calories each day on average in your fat tissue — 20 calories that you don’t mobilize and burn — what does overeating have to do with it? And why aren’t we all fat? Twenty calories, after all, is a bite or two of food, a swallow or two of soda or fruit juice or milk or beer. It is an absolutely trivial amount of overeating that the body then chooses, for reasons we’ll have to discuss at some point, not to expend, but to store as fat instead. (cont on next post)



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ok, this was a pretty dumb statement to me

"Because the problem isn’t that the obese overeat when they’re obese, it’s that they overeat when they’re lean and they continue to overeat until they become obese."

really? this had me laugh.

eh, not really buying into this one. I

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some amazon reviewers:

Taubes reviews the scientific literature (rather than the popular press) and presents a conclusion that was common knowledge before WWII, and heresy afterward: we get fat because our fat cells have become disregulated and are taking nutrients that should be available to other tissues. Like a tumor, the cells live for themselves rather than in balance with the rest of the body. And since those nutrients aren't available, we become hungry and tired. Therefore we eat more, and move less.
The problem isn't one of gluttony and sloth, as Taubes refers to it, but of hormone balance. Simply put, some people are more sensitive to the hormone effects of insulin, cortisol, and a few other -ols, than other people are. The more sensitive you are, the more you're likely to get fat, and the more fat you're likely to get, in the presence of even small amounts of carbohydrate -- and in the absence of enough fat.

Taubes rejects the old "calories-in/calories-out" theory of fat accumulation. You remember the equation: eat too many calories and you get fat, or fail to burn up enough calories with metabolism and exercise, and you get fat. To lose fat, eat less and exercise more. [He admits it has at least a little validity.] We've operated under that theory for the last half century, but keep getting fatter and fatter. So the theory must be wrong on the face of it. Is there a better one?

Here is Taubes's. The hormone in charge of fat strorage is insulin; it works to make us fatter, building fat tissue. If you've got too much fat, you must have too much insulin action. And what drives insulin secretion from your pancreas? Dietary carbohydrates, especially refined carbs such as sugars, flour, cereal grains, starchy vegetables (e.g., corn, beans, rice, potatoes), liquid carbs. These are the "fattening carbs." Dozens of enzymes and hormones are at play either depositing fat into tissue, or mobilizing the fat to be used as energy. Any regulatory derangement that favors fat accumulation will CAUSE gluttony (overeating) or sloth (inactivity). So it's not your fault. Cut back on carb consumption to lower your fat-producing insulin levels, and you turn fat accumulation into fat mobilization.

Before you write off Taubes as a fly-by-night crackpot, note that he's received three Science-in-Society Journalism Awards from the National Association of Science Writers. He's a respected, professional science writer.

Heres an example to illustrate how hormones control growth of tissues. Consider the transformation of a skinny 11-year-old girl into a voluptuous woman of 18. Various hormones make her grow and accumulate fat and other tissues in the places we now see curves. The hormones make her eat more, and they control the final product. The girl has no choice. Same with our adult fat tissue, but with a different mix of hormones.



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CoffeeQueen wrote:

ok, this was a pretty dumb statement to me

"Because the problem isn’t that the obese overeat when they’re obese, it’s that they overeat when they’re lean and they continue to overeat until they become obese."

really? this had me laugh.

eh, not really buying into this one. I


 i know...me too!!  but keep reading:  he basically says that someone who is sensitive to carbs will store them as fat (hence the gradual weight gain he mentioned) then, when the body stores those extra calories as fat it is not available to other parts of the body for energy (which causes tiredness and as we all know insulin spikes can cause hunger. 



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I like what he also says about animals in the wild:

One way to get around this is to assume that we overeat by this trivial amount for a few years on end and then we realize we’ve put on five or ten pounds – maybe our clothes no longer fit well or we’ve had to let out the belt a notch or two – and then we decide to undereat every day for however long it takes to make up for it. So now we walk away from the table hungry until all is back to leanness. But then how do animals do it? They don’t have mirrors or clothes to tell them they’re getting fat, and the world is full of animals that have plenty of food available all year round, plenty of opportunity to overeat if they want to and do so long enough to get chubby. And yet the only animals that get chronically obese are those that get their food directly from humans – in the laboratory, in the home or the zoo, or at the dinner table, since humans happen to be animals, too.



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Lizzy wrote:
CoffeeQueen wrote:

ok, this was a pretty dumb statement to me

"Because the problem isn’t that the obese overeat when they’re obese, it’s that they overeat when they’re lean and they continue to overeat until they become obese."

really? this had me laugh.

eh, not really buying into this one. I


 i know...me too!!  but keep reading:  he basically says that someone who is sensitive to carbs will store them as fat (hence the gradual weight gain he mentioned) then, when the body stores those extra calories as fat it is not available to other parts of the body for energy (which causes tiredness and as we all know insulin spikes can cause hunger. 


yeah, that is pretty basic. That is why the glycemic index is the best to use and a diabetic diet overall works best. It kees insulin levels even.

 

this sounds kind of bitchy, but not meant to at all.



-- Edited by CoffeeQueen on Tuesday 12th of July 2011 10:57:06 AM

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CoffeeQueen wrote:
Lizzy wrote:
CoffeeQueen wrote:

ok, this was a pretty dumb statement to me

"Because the problem isn’t that the obese overeat when they’re obese, it’s that they overeat when they’re lean and they continue to overeat until they become obese."

really? this had me laugh.

eh, not really buying into this one. I


 i know...me too!!  but keep reading:  he basically says that someone who is sensitive to carbs will store them as fat (hence the gradual weight gain he mentioned) then, when the body stores those extra calories as fat it is not available to other parts of the body for energy (which causes tiredness and as we all know insulin spikes can cause hunger. 


yeah, that is pretty basic. That is why the glycemic index is the best to use and a diabetic diet overall works best. It kees insulin levels even.

 

this sounds kind of bitchy, but not meant to at all.



-- Edited by CoffeeQueen on Tuesday 12th of July 2011 10:57:06 AM


 no not at all!  don has been trying to explain this to  me for years and it really didn't "click" until i read some of Taubes explanation.  I really could never understand the "why" of it all and as the reviewer gave the example of the hormones changing the girl into a woman - it just made sense. 



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