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Last year Lucas went to the same school for prek... they ate lunch super early so they had an afternoon snack that the parents were required to provide each day.

This year in K they still eat early and again they have an afternoon snack but everyday a different parent supplies the snack for the whole class... which is fine. BUT I couldn't get over some of the suggestions... they asked for indivudually wrapped snacks and listed some suggestions... Goldfish, granola, OREOS and CHIPS... Seriosuly? Oreos and chips?!?!


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Yikes. I would hate that too. I am really happy because our school is pretty strict about that. They don't allow sweets for birthdays but do a once a month celebration to limit the amount of sugary snacks. They specifically asked NOT to send chips, cookies, etc. and asked that you send crackers, granola bars, yogurt, fruit, veggies, etc. You bring your own snack each day which I am really happy about. I hated buying for the whole class.

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i wonder if there is a significant difference in the nutritional merits of granola bars vs. cookies or chips vs. crackers

that said, i would not prefer a set up where parents are designated to provide for the class. 

its like parents that give cheap 1/2 ply sandpaper tissues for school supplies.  i don't send that because i don't like them.  and for some people that might be all they can afford, which is a different issue.

but idc much about the after school snacks unless its straight up candy everyday.

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Tab, I bet most granola bars are probably not that much healthier than cookies or chips... but I might send those since they are prepackaged and you get a lot in a box (guess that makes me a hypocrite huh?!?!) I'm not sure how many kids are in the class... last year there were 20 kids in his prek class.

I just could not believe the teacher actually typed that out on the class handbook... chips and oreos.... it also said that if the child has a birthday they will automatically get snack day that day so the parent can bring in cupcakes (that I'm fine with)

I guess it is a shock to me since the other school we almost sent him to will not allow food like that... they would send it home. They ask for things like fresh fruit, whole grain things, and cheese and only allow the kids to drink milk or plain milk

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I think I would honestly say something to the teacher. There is no reason why a school should request chips as a snack for 5 year olds. If parents want to give it to their kids at home that is one thing, but for them to suggest it as a snack. That just seems whacked to me.

Our teachers beg parent to do healthy stuff like fruit, etc. They say they get enough junk at home and rather parents make that choice. Never mind the fact that today kids have so many food issues.



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Leave it to me to possibly make this a hot topic, but...

I often wonder after seeing Koda's behavior issues that we believe (through trial and error) to be related to food... how many kids actually have ADD - which is very real and I know so very difficult for families to work through - and how many kids are just jacked up on crappy foods, too much sugar, etc.

I would SO have an issue having other parents provide the snack, especially with the suggstions given.

Says the control freak about what gets fed to my kids.  They get treats too, but not every afternoon for snack.

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Also I am wondering how many kids in his class might not eat things in their lunch that they might not like because they know later they will get junk food?!?

There lunch is at 10:45 (when he was in prek it was 10:15) so snack will be sometime around 1 or 2. I forget when exactly.

He goes to school from 9-3:40

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tabatha wrote:

i wonder if there is a significant difference in the nutritional merits of granola bars vs. cookies or chips vs. crackers

that said, i would not prefer a set up where parents are designated to provide for the class. 

its like parents that give cheap 1/2 ply sandpaper tissues for school supplies.  i don't send that because i don't like them.  and for some people that might be all they can afford, which is a different issue.

but idc much about the after school snacks unless its straight up candy everyday.



I don't think granola bars (the ones kids generally eat) are all that nutritional but I do find them to be better than cookies. Gavin eats the fiber 1 bars so I feel better about that because he is getting some much needed fiber and a little bit more protein than cookies or regular granola bars. 

 



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Leave it to me to possibly make this a hot topic, but...

I often wonder after seeing Koda's behavior issues that we believe (through trial and error) to be related to food... how many kids actually have ADD - which is very real and I know so very difficult for families to work through - and how many kids are just jacked up on crappy foods, too much sugar, etc.

I would SO have an issue having other parents provide the snack, especially with the suggstions given.

Says the control freak about what gets fed to my kids.  They get treats too, but not every afternoon for snack.



I wonder the same thing too. We go through phases where we are really good about monitoring what they eat and then sometimes just eat way too much crap. 

Anyway, we were at a birthday party this weekend and there were these two older boys - like 6 and 8 so not super old. Anyway, 8 year old is high functioning autistic and the 6 year old just seems like a total terd. I could give examples but just trust me on this.

Anyway, I know it was a party but still - their behavior was HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE x 10 actually and they just downed the soda, chips, candy, chocolate, etc. Again, I know it was a party but their behavior was completely out of hand and just kept getting worse. So, anyway, I wonder too. 

 



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I would DEFinitely say something.

i do not let my kids eat any of those things on a daily basis.  IMO they ALL are junk food.

that would not work for me, i would not care what the teacher says.

wow!

way to set up a child for obesity later in life....


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supergrover wrote:

Leave it to me to possibly make this a hot topic, but...

I often wonder after seeing Koda's behavior issues that we believe (through trial and error) to be related to food... how many kids actually have ADD - which is very real and I know so very difficult for families to work through - and how many kids are just jacked up on crappy foods, too much sugar, etc.

I would SO have an issue having other parents provide the snack, especially with the suggstions given.

Says the control freak about what gets fed to my kids.  They get treats too, but not every afternoon for snack.




ITA!!!



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Tab, I bet most granola bars are probably not that much healthier than cookies or chips... but I might send those since they are prepackaged and you get a lot in a box (guess that makes me a hypocrite huh?!?!) I'm not sure how many kids are in the class... last year there were 20 kids in his prek class.

I just could not believe the teacher actually typed that out on the class handbook... chips and oreos.... it also said that if the child has a birthday they will automatically get snack day that day so the parent can bring in cupcakes (that I'm fine with)

I guess it is a shock to me since the other school we almost sent him to will not allow food like that... they would send it home. They ask for things like fresh fruit, whole grain things, and cheese and only allow the kids to drink milk or plain milk



i guess i'm just not at all surprised that a teacher would suggest that.  maybe its because c has been in daycare for so long that i've seen that and accepted it.  at the end of the day they are going to do whatever is convenient and inexpensive.  i've never seen a daycare/school pass out (for example) whole apples as a snack. they would have to be washed, cut etc.  not so much for 5yr olds but definitely when they are younger.

bananas are probably the simplest, most economical, fresh fruit class snack i can think of.  (maybe you should bring those in?)

of course, its not helpful that schools have banned homemade snacksdisbelief not to get off on a tangent, because i understand why, but i still think its pathetic i can't bake my kid cupcakes for her birthday or for class parties.  i always brought homemade stuff to school functions growing up and i feel so lame buying cupcakes or whatever.

i was definitely much more particular about stuff when c first started daycare.  i was like "she can't have juice...just milk or water." now, not so much.  although i will say when she was in k3/k4 at our present school they always had healthy meals and snacks courtesy of the school cook.  and i loved that.



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Juni wrote:

tabatha wrote:

i wonder if there is a significant difference in the nutritional merits of granola bars vs. cookies or chips vs. crackers

that said, i would not prefer a set up where parents are designated to provide for the class. 

its like parents that give cheap 1/2 ply sandpaper tissues for school supplies.  i don't send that because i don't like them.  and for some people that might be all they can afford, which is a different issue.

but idc much about the after school snacks unless its straight up candy everyday.



I don't think granola bars (the ones kids generally eat) are all that nutritional but I do find them to be better than cookies. Gavin eats the fiber 1 bars so I feel better about that because he is getting some much needed fiber and a little bit more protein than cookies or regular granola bars. 

 



c totally has granola bars, including fiber 1 bars.  i for sure think they are better than some of the crappier granola bars that i bought for her lunches.

 frankly, pretty much anything that comes out of a wrapper falls under the umbrella of "junk food" but that doesn't mean we don't eat them, kwim?

as for ADD...  i am astonished at the number of kids i see on psych meds, very potent meds and usually a combination of them.  looking at it from my perspective as a nurse, knowing how those drugs are normally used and what they do it's just scary.  and i guess it would be different if it was uncommon, but it isnt, not at all.

i once saw a 3yr old with (among other things) a diagnosis of bipolar disorder and to that effect, 3 head CTs in a year.  #1 idu how a 3yr old can be diagnosed as bipolar #2 a CT gives you the annual max dose of radiation.  a 'healthy' kid with three??? thats nuts! who are these doctors?

however, from an anecdotal perspective i can tell you that c is unpleasant after a candy/sugar binge. 



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tabatha wrote:

i wonder if there is a significant difference in the nutritional merits of granola bars vs. cookies or chips vs. crackers

that said, i would not prefer a set up where parents are designated to provide for the class. 

its like parents that give cheap 1/2 ply sandpaper tissues for school supplies.  i don't send that because i don't like them.  and for some people that might be all they can afford, which is a different issue.

but idc much about the after school snacks unless its straight up candy everyday.



I don't think granola bars (the ones kids generally eat) are all that nutritional but I do find them to be better than cookies. Gavin eats the fiber 1 bars so I feel better about that because he is getting some much needed fiber and a little bit more protein than cookies or regular granola bars. 

 



c totally has granola bars, including fiber 1 bars.  i for sure think they are better than some of the crappier granola bars that i bought for her lunches.

frankly, pretty much anything that comes out of a wrapper falls under the umbrella of "junk food" but that doesn't mean we don't eat them, kwim?

as for ADD...  i am astonished at the number of kids i see on psych meds, very potent meds and usually a combination of them.  looking at it from my perspective as a nurse, knowing how those drugs are normally used and what they do it's just scary.  and i guess it would be different if it was uncommon, but it isnt, not at all.

i once saw a 3yr old with (among other things) a diagnosis of bipolar disorder and to that effect, 3 head CTs in a year.  #1 idu how a 3yr old can be diagnosed as bipolar #2 a CT gives you the annual max dose of radiation.  a 'healthy' kid with three??? thats nuts! who are these doctors?

however, from an anecdotal perspective i can tell you that c is unpleasant after a candy/sugar binge.

 




Wow. I cannot imagine that with a 3 year old. I see a lot of kids on meds in my field too and it is so hard because you see some that it helps so much but with others I see the side of how much they would benefit from other things - different parenting techniques, better diet, etc. and I wonder.



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supergrover wrote:

Leave it to me to possibly make this a hot topic, but...

I often wonder after seeing Koda's behavior issues that we believe (through trial and error) to be related to food... how many kids actually have ADD - which is very real and I know so very difficult for families to work through - and how many kids are just jacked up on crappy foods, too much sugar, etc.

I would SO have an issue having other parents provide the snack, especially with the suggstions given.

Says the control freak about what gets fed to my kids.  They get treats too, but not every afternoon for snack.



Agree.  If it was like that in Raven's class I would say something to the teacher(then principal if needed) and send Raven her own snack everyday.  I know what most at her school send in their lunches so I don't want them responsible for her snack. 

 



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