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Hot topic here at the U of I
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This story has a lot of people talking.  What do you think?\

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/university-illinois/2010-07-09/instructor-catholicism-ui-claims-loss-job-violates-academic-free

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I think the professor had every right to say what he said.  He's supposed to teach according to his beliefs, he did that, and he said he tells his students upfront they don't have to accept what he believes but it's his job to teach the teachings.

This happens to me all the time...I believe what's in the bible, no ifs, ands, or buts about it..everyone doesn't have to believe the way I do, but it doesn't change what I say or  what I believe.  

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ITA with Jennifer. He was very clear IMO, and taught what he was supposed to teach. Being fired for it is out of line. If they don't want moral things like that taught, they shouldn't offer religion courses because religion is has a lot to do with moral standards, especially stricter religions like Catholocism.

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If I take a class on Buddism, I would expect to learn things that were not necessarily my belief, or for that matter, in line with my morals (not that I am saying that is necessarily the case with Buddism because I really don't know that). 

What's even more interesting is that there is a big Catholic dorm and church here.  I don't know why on earth anyone would think that the Catholic religon would not be practiced and taught there. 

We attend a Catholic church (not the one on campus but I have been there.  It's beautiful.)  And frankly, this is one area that I don't hold the same view as the church.  But I know that and it's my choice to accept it or not.

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Very interesting. My first thoughts were exactly in line with yours and Jennifer and Alaina. However, I cant help but wonder if there is something else going on not accurately or fully captured by the article, since the comments suggest that some people felt that his classroom demeanor and teaching style went too far.

Generally speaking though, I think it is cowardly when Universities cave to pressure to fire professors that are passionate and get students active in debate and discourse simply because some do not "agree" with their politics or opinions.

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Erin wrote:

Very interesting. My first thoughts were exactly in line with yours and Jennifer and Alaina. However, I cant help but wonder if there is something else going on not accurately or fully captured by the article, since the comments suggest that some people felt that his classroom demeanor and teaching style went too far.

Generally speaking though, I think it is cowardly when Universities cave to pressure to fire professors that are passionate and get students active in debate and discourse simply because some do not "agree" with their politics or opinions.




 that's true Erin, maybe there's more to this story that they're not telling...



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Juanita wrote:

Erin wrote:

Very interesting. My first thoughts were exactly in line with yours and Jennifer and Alaina. However, I cant help but wonder if there is something else going on not accurately or fully captured by the article, since the comments suggest that some people felt that his classroom demeanor and teaching style went too far.

Generally speaking though, I think it is cowardly when Universities cave to pressure to fire professors that are passionate and get students active in debate and discourse simply because some do not "agree" with their politics or opinions.




 that's true Erin, maybe there's more to this story that they're not telling...



I'd say that's likely.

 



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