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Josie is speaking very well for 2 yrs 4 months. Huge vocab, full sentences, never.stops.talking. Her teachers have commented that she's more advanced then most of her other daycare friends (probably because of the non.stop.talking). At her conference, the teacher said her sentence structure is what they would expect for a 5 yr old.

But, she can't do blended constanants at all. dr, tr, st, etc. So, she's sometimes hard to understand.

When is that an issue? I'm not worried now but I want to make sure I keep on top of it.

 



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Josie is speaking very well for 2 yrs 4 months. Huge vocab, full sentences, never.stops.talking. Her teachers have commented that she's more advanced then most of her other daycare friends (probably because of the non.stop.talking). At her conference, the teacher said her sentence structure is what they would expect for a 5 yr old.

But, she can't do blended constanants at all. dr, tr, st, etc. So, she's sometimes hard to understand.

When is that an issue? I'm not worried now but I want to make sure I keep on top of it.

 

 




cara's a really advanced talker too.  i wouldnt say she's at a 5 yr old level, but i'd say she's at at least a 3 yr level.  i wouldnt worry about consonant blends yet - cara is stilly saying "dwy" (dry) and "twy" (try) -- she can do an st, but has a lisp still (or maybe it's that damn binky).

is she doing like that?  or no blending at all?



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Usually they do not worry or recommend speech until 1st or 2nd grade.

Do games with her like say who can say this slippery,snake,etc. Make up word tongue twisters.

It is really a maturation process and at her age that is still expected.

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Perfect, thanks. Like I said, not worried now but curious as to when you worry.

Charlie was always so clear that we didn't think about that before.

Kelly, I dont' think she is doing st. I'd have to test her out.

She can't do a K sound - she says t.

I wouldn't say she's speaking at a 5 year old level at all. She's probably like Cara and is what you'd expect for a 3 yr old.

I think she's overwhelmed her toddler teachers with her constant talking. lol

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Sonya - I would say if it continues to have her checked at 4. I only say that because I work with 4 year olds and we have them tested with those particular issues. That being said - at least hear - the majority of the time the kids do not qualify for any early intervention unless you can pretty much not understand them. My guess is Josie probably already wouldn't qualify, kwim?

Owen is a very advanced talker. He comes up with the craziest things and is a super mimic. He has been talking for so long though. But I think it's adorable because he still says the "w" sound for "l" and the "b" sound for "v". So he'll say "I wub you Gabi." (gavi). I love that because he seems so much older than he is but then he says I wub you and it makes me smile.

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Sonya I agree with Jen that if she is still having the issue at 4 to look into it but otherwise she is completley age appropriate for her speech.

Anna is still in speech and is no where near as advanced as Josie (or Cara), hence the need for speech but she is doing really well for Anna.  There are a lot of great speech books that you can get that her ST uses and also flash cards.  We made Anna a set each week.  The ST fnds pictures of words she has difficulty with and laminates them for us to practice with that week.  One thing to keep in mind is to just focus on one sound at a time.  For the past 3 weeks we have been working on the S sound.  It is too confusing for them otherwise.

It is great that Josie is such a talker!

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To add that most kids do not get evaluated for speech until 1st grade because there are developmental issues that play into effect. Those that qualify for speech in early intervention are just not children who are not blending sounds. Typically they are ones that are delayed, aggravated by speech and trying to talk, etc.

Here is something as a guideline in terms of sounds.

These observations can help you determine the severity of your child’s speech problem and whether he is developmentally delayed in this area. Sounds which are made toward the front of the mouth (such as m, n, p, b, t, d) are the easiest to make. They are usually acquired first. Sounds requiring special placement of the tongue (l, r, s, voiced th) are the most difficult.

Usually, sounds in the initial position of words are the easiest, followed by sounds in the final position. Consonants which appear in the middle of words are the most difficult. Any sound which occurs in a “blend” is particularly difficult to pronounce.

Consistently mispronounced sounds are a concern as the child gets older. However, if he pronounces a sound correctly some of the time, he may be moving toward standard pronunciation on his own. Most children develop standard speech by the age of six, although some children still have problems pronouncing the more difficult sounds at age seven or eight.

A loosely-drawn developmental scale for standard American speech production would look something like the following:

By age 3  —  vowels     p, b, m, n, d, g, h

By age 4  —  k, t, th, f, v, ng, j, ch

By age 5  —  sh, zh

By age 7  —  l, r, s, th

A comment about vowels. Among English speakers, differences in vowel production are usually considered dialectic rather than misarticulations. It is possible, however, to have a nasal or “gravelly” voice quality that is magnified during vowel production. This type of problem should be referred to a speech therapist or physician for consultation.



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Sonya wrote:

 

Josie is speaking very well for 2 yrs 4 months. Huge vocab, full sentences, never.stops.talking. Her teachers have commented that she's more advanced then most of her other daycare friends (probably because of the non.stop.talking). At her conference, the teacher said her sentence structure is what they would expect for a 5 yr old.

But, she can't do blended constanants at all. dr, tr, st, etc. So, she's sometimes hard to understand.

When is that an issue? I'm not worried now but I want to make sure I keep on top of it.

 

 




cara's a really advanced talker too.  i wouldnt say she's at a 5 yr old level, but i'd say she's at at least a 3 yr level.  i wouldnt worry about consonant blends yet - cara is stilly saying "dwy" (dry) and "twy" (try) -- she can do an st, but has a lisp still (or maybe it's that damn binky).

is she doing like that?  or no blending at all?

 



This is Kate too.  Always way ahead of the pack in speech and forming sentences, but even now at 3, she still does the same "twy" for try kinds of things.  There are others that I am forgetting too that Anna tends to get on her about.

It is so different-Anna was a late talker, but like Charlie, she spoke clearly (once she actually spoke).  Kate spoke early and a lot, but was harder to understand.

I wouldn't worry about it at all at this point.  I'd be more concerned about your ears-I know mine take a beating btwn the two girls all day long...

 



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daisy wrote:

 

Sonya wrote:

 

Josie is speaking very well for 2 yrs 4 months. Huge vocab, full sentences, never.stops.talking. Her teachers have commented that she's more advanced then most of her other daycare friends (probably because of the non.stop.talking). At her conference, the teacher said her sentence structure is what they would expect for a 5 yr old.

But, she can't do blended constanants at all. dr, tr, st, etc. So, she's sometimes hard to understand.

When is that an issue? I'm not worried now but I want to make sure I keep on top of it.

 

 




cara's a really advanced talker too.  i wouldnt say she's at a 5 yr old level, but i'd say she's at at least a 3 yr level.  i wouldnt worry about consonant blends yet - cara is stilly saying "dwy" (dry) and "twy" (try) -- she can do an st, but has a lisp still (or maybe it's that damn binky).

is she doing like that?  or no blending at all?

 



This is Kate too.  Always way ahead of the pack in speech and forming sentences, but even now at 3, she still does the same "twy" for try kinds of things.  There are others that I am forgetting too that Anna tends to get on her about.

It is so different-Anna was a late talker, but like Charlie, she spoke clearly (once she actually spoke).  Kate spoke early and a lot, but was harder to understand.

I wouldn't worry about it at all at this point.  I'd be more concerned about your ears-I know mine take a beating btwn the two girls all day long...

 



yes, it's a non-stop chatter fest at my house. She wakes up talking (or screaming) and she falls asleep chatting. I wonder where she gets that? ;)

 



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Supafly wrote:

 

daisy wrote:

 

Sonya wrote:

 

Josie is speaking very well for 2 yrs 4 months. Huge vocab, full sentences, never.stops.talking. Her teachers have commented that she's more advanced then most of her other daycare friends (probably because of the non.stop.talking). At her conference, the teacher said her sentence structure is what they would expect for a 5 yr old.

But, she can't do blended constanants at all. dr, tr, st, etc. So, she's sometimes hard to understand.

When is that an issue? I'm not worried now but I want to make sure I keep on top of it.

 

 




cara's a really advanced talker too.  i wouldnt say she's at a 5 yr old level, but i'd say she's at at least a 3 yr level.  i wouldnt worry about consonant blends yet - cara is stilly saying "dwy" (dry) and "twy" (try) -- she can do an st, but has a lisp still (or maybe it's that damn binky).

is she doing like that?  or no blending at all?

 



This is Kate too.  Always way ahead of the pack in speech and forming sentences, but even now at 3, she still does the same "twy" for try kinds of things.  There are others that I am forgetting too that Anna tends to get on her about.

It is so different-Anna was a late talker, but like Charlie, she spoke clearly (once she actually spoke).  Kate spoke early and a lot, but was harder to understand.

I wouldn't worry about it at all at this point.  I'd be more concerned about your ears-I know mine take a beating btwn the two girls all day long...

 



yes, it's a non-stop chatter fest at my house. She wakes up talking (or screaming) and she falls asleep chatting. I wonder where she gets that? ;)

 

 




It's exhausting, isn't it???

People are often surprised that both of mine still go down for naps everyday (they definitely don't actually nap everyday-they aren't right now), but seriously, I CAN NOT listen to them all day without a break.  I would physically kill me to have to listen to them all day.  I know there will come a day when I wish they would talk to me...but that day is NOT today.



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