I miss...

crystal · Guru

I miss...

Sonya · Guru

I know. It makes me sad too.

Come back! We miss you.

supergrover · Guru

facebook.

I miss people too :sniff

daisy · Guru

yeah it is pretty slow lately -
xoxo.

Supafly · Guru

ITU-I do wish for more traffic, and it is hard for me to understand why people don't post, at least an update now and again. After so many years of knowing each other, I just wish for that. And I don't spend a ton of time on FB, nor can I keep up with everyone over there, so I really don't see what is going on in everyone's lives if they keep it only to FB. It is sad.

That said, I am supa grateful for the ladies who are still posting here regularly. I love you all, and it is so nice to have you all here!!!

a_mastermom · Guru

Supafly wrote:

ITU-I do wish for more traffic, and it is hard for me to understand why people don't post, at least an update now and again. After so many years of knowing each other, I just wish for that. And I don't spend a ton of time on FB, nor can I keep up with everyone over there, so I really don't see what is going on in everyone's lives if they keep it only to FB. It is sad.

That said, I am supa grateful for the ladies who are still posting here regularly. I love you all, and it is so nice to have you all here!!!

Ditto to all of this.

Sunshine · Guru

The thing, I think, about Facebook (in addition to those darned games!) is that I can update in one place for friends, family, everywhere, ya know? ITU about not being able to keep up though! I don't know nearly as much about everyone these days as I'd like to because it moves SO fast over there.

I do read here a lot; I just don't always say much.

And I bet I'm not the only one.

muffy · Guru

Sunshine wrote:

The thing, I think, about Facebook (in addition to those darned games!) is that I can update in one place for friends, family, everywhere, ya know? ITU about not being able to keep up though! I don't know nearly as much about everyone these days as I'd like to because it moves SO fast over there.

I do read here a lot; I just don't always say much. And I bet I'm not the only one.

what people might want to do is hide all those stupid game and poll results - i really don't care what score someone got in whatever online game they spent the last 4 hours online playing - kwim? or what someone's horoscope is for the day? so i just hide them - so i still get the "real" status updates and such from people, but not all the SPAM!

but even with facebook - there is something missing - the interaction between us here in this board is not something that can be put out there on facebook, for the opposite reason - the intimacy here. that is what i miss.

i think it is fine to se pictures on FB - it's not the picture posts and stuff like that that i miss here, its the closeness, intimacy, interaction that used to be between us.

but seriously, i just can't wrap my head around the EXTREME amounts of time people waste on facebook and all those games. looks for some to be hours and hours a day... sure i occasionally pop onto my computer to play a zuma game - but its maybe once or twice a month. don't people have more interesting things to do with their lives in real life? i also have concerns for my children and the next generations - i am monitoring carefully the time my kids are allowed on the computer, and make sure their days are full with activities outside of the home!

daisy · Guru

yeah - i've been wondering this actually - since i'm not on FB with you guys, what *are* the interactions on FB like? mainly just responding to each other's status updates? or more emailing/chatting through FB? are you guys on there all the time talking to each other the way we all used to be here?
just how many pics am i missing?
just how *much* am i missing?

i agree with muffy, FB moves so fast and i bet i'd miss a ton anyway.
everytime MS is slow, i am like "oh whatever i should just friend everyone" but then i hesitate.

supergrover · Guru

actually not *that* much responding unless there is a lot of messaging going on. More just keeping up with status messages, commenting on the occasional photo album. Certainly not as meaningful as our community was/is (imo).

Then again, I have a love/hate with facebook. I facebook dumped more than half my "friends" a month or two ago. Just because we went to high school and college doesn't mean we were ever real friends. I used the criteria if I would go to dinner with you if you were ever in town, then we were friends. More than half didn't meet that (though interestingly, I didn't facebook dump any MS peeps...even though I'd never met any of you, lol).

Also, I think i missed the first wave of face book friending. i know I'm not friends with a bunch of people, but also got dumped by a bunch of MS folks...so I don't friend MS people anymore because I can't remember if you've already dumped me once ;)

whew. Long winded. I think facebook is deteriorating a lot of basic communication skills across the board. I don't call my brother. I respond to a one line status message. Step-mom? Same. Best friend who deserves a call? I chat...which isn't the same. I could go on and on (like I already am) at how few communication skills our college students have because they only know how to "talk" online and through abbreviated texting.

muffy · Guru

daisy wrote:

yeah - i've been wondering this actually - since i'm not on FB with you guys, what *are* the interactions on FB like? mainly just responding to each other's status updates? or more emailing/chatting through FB? are you guys on there all the time talking to each other the way we all used to be here?
just how many pics am i missing?
just how *much* am i missing?

i agree with muffy, FB moves so fast and i bet i'd miss a ton anyway.
everytime MS is slow, i am like "oh whatever i should just friend everyone" but then i hesitate.

when browsing, you can see the intial status that someone writes - and whatever comments people have made up to that point.

the big problem i have it that it is NOT like a thread such as we have here... and i am not about to go back a re-read through peoples status updates to see if anyone added any comments or commented to what i wrote - that is where, IMO it becomes completely unmanageable to me. what is missing is these "threads" and the fact that our board prompts us to read new posts added to threads, and we can easily see when there are/are not threads with new unread posts.

so i just read status updates till i get to the ones i read before. i don't go back over old ones - so surely i am missing the "chat" type aspect.

if you delete all the spam-type posts, like i mentioned, and you have limited to MS friends - i think you would see quite a lot of pics. people post groups of pics from "events" but they also will post here and there an odd one-off pic. i like seeing those.

also, i am cautious not to post just anything on FB because of the wide variety of people i am friends with. the stuff i post here, including about my pregnancy the past 7 months, i do not post on FB.

fwiw - i think you should open a dummy FB account and friend just the MS group of gals and check it out - that way it remains a private forum to you (what was the old ivillage pseudonym you used? you could use that!) especially as it is coming up to christmas season, and i bet a lot of the MS gals will be posting a lot of pictures... (and as said, anytime you get spam type updated from the gamers and poll takers, you can hide those applications while still getting the "real" updates from the ladies)

daisy · Guru

supergrover wrote:

actually not *that* much responding unless there is a lot of messaging going on. More just keeping up with status messages, commenting on the occasional photo album. Certainly not as meaningful as our community was/is (imo).

Then again, I have a love/hate with facebook. I facebook dumped more than half my "friends" a month or two ago. Just because we went to high school and college doesn't mean we were ever real friends. I used the criteria if I would go to dinner with you if you were ever in town, then we were friends. More than half didn't meet that (though interestingly, I didn't facebook dump any MS peeps...even though I'd never met any of you, lol).

Also, I think i missed the first wave of face book friending. i know I'm not friends with a bunch of people, but also got dumped by a bunch of MS folks...so I don't friend MS people anymore because I can't remember if you've already dumped me once ;)

whew. Long winded. I think facebook is deteriorating a lot of basic communication skills across the board. I don't call my brother. I respond to a one line status message. Step-mom? Same. Best friend who deserves a call? I chat...which isn't the same. I could go on and on (like I already am) at how few communication skills our college students have because they only know how to "talk" online and through abbreviated texting.

as a prof for 5+ years, i can attest to the poor communication skills in college students. it's really astounding.
i recently deleted a bunch of people on fb - just people that are never on anyway, arent contributing to my time on fb, and who i was never all that close with anyway. sorta felt good to weed through.

CoffeeQueen · Guru

I do not think facebook is the issue at all. I check it all the time, but not sitting there just staring at the screen. I refresh, scan and move on. I tend to do it a lot more at work.

Anyway, facebook is nothing like this site. I mean you cannot tell a story or ask certain questions. It is more like a random thought board. I really do not think that people do not post here because of it. I think it is all a choice. That is like saying I talk to people on the phone so I do not need to use the computer to me. I just think it is all an excuse.

CheleLyn · Senior Member

CoffeeQueen wrote:

I do not think facebook is the issue at all. I check it all the time, but not sitting there just staring at the screen. I refresh, scan and move on. I tend to do it a lot more at work.

Anyway, facebook is nothing like this site. I mean you cannot tell a story or ask certain questions. It is more like a random thought board. I really do not think that people do not post here because of it. I think it is all a choice. That is like saying I talk to people on the phone so I do not need to use the computer to me. I just think it is all an excuse.

I don't think it's so much fb in general as some of the games...idk though, i don't play the games and have blocked all the game apps that have come my way. I do know people who do spend HOURS on fb playing games...and then call me to talk about the game as if they are 1. really wrapped up into the gaes "life" and 2. like I REALLY care...which I personally don't and just them and remind them that it is ONLY a game....the animals in your zoo are make believe, they won't REALLY die if you don't feed them LOL

Like Muffy said, I have also hidden all the horoscopes and gaming info.

Anyway, I think I check fb from my phone more than from the computer. I can't comment to status updates from my phone though, which is convenient.

Jennie · Guru

muffy wrote:

Sunshine wrote:

The thing, I think, about Facebook (in addition to those darned games!) is that I can update in one place for friends, family, everywhere, ya know? ITU about not being able to keep up though! I don't know nearly as much about everyone these days as I'd like to because it moves SO fast over there.

I do read here a lot; I just don't always say much. And I bet I'm not the only one.

what people might want to do is hide all those stupid game and poll results - i really don't care what score someone got in whatever online game they spent the last 4 hours online playing - kwim? or what someone's horoscope is for the day? so i just hide them - so i still get the "real" status updates and such from people, but not all the SPAM!

but even with facebook - there is something missing - the interaction between us here in this board is not something that can be put out there on facebook, for the opposite reason - the intimacy here. that is what i miss.

i think it is fine to se pictures on FB - it's not the picture posts and stuff like that that i miss here, its the closeness, intimacy, interaction that used to be between us.

but seriously, i just can't wrap my head around the EXTREME amounts of time people waste on facebook and all those games. looks for some to be hours and hours a day... sure i occasionally pop onto my computer to play a zuma game - but its maybe once or twice a month. don't people have more interesting things to do with their lives in real life? i also have concerns for my children and the next generations - i am monitoring carefully the time my kids are allowed on the computer, and make sure their days are full with activities outside of the home!

As someone who plays those games...

Do I waste "EXTREME amounts of time on facebook and all those games"- No.

Do I play those games for hours and hours? No.

I don't get a lot of time to myself. I don't get a lot of time to myself outside of the house. Those games that I play- which are mainly just FarmVille and YoVille- I might try a couple others and then drop them b/c I don't like them- are my time to myself usually after DH gets home. I play throughout the day- yes. Usually when Addy is taking her cat naps. Where is Colin? He's right there with me. We work together. We figure out the crops, we do the math. We work it together. I do a bulk of the playing during his quiet time. I post FarmVille and YoVille stuff b/c I play with friends of mine. So it isn't an addiction for me. I don't waste countless hours on it. Every once in awhile I'm on it more often than usual just because I've gotten through my work and I'm bored and the kids are sleeping.

muffy · Guru

CoffeeQueen wrote:

I do not think facebook is the issue at all. I check it all the time, but not sitting there just staring at the screen. I refresh, scan and move on. I tend to do it a lot more at work.

Anyway, facebook is nothing like this site. I mean you cannot tell a story or ask certain questions. It is more like a random thought board. I really do not think that people do not post here because of it. I think it is all a choice. That is like saying I talk to people on the phone so I do not need to use the computer to me. I just think it is all an excuse.

i agree with you here. for quite a few, they pretty much found other things in their lives that interest them more. which is fine and i wish us all happiness!

muffy · Guru

Jennie wrote:

but seriously, i just can't wrap my head around the EXTREME amounts of time people waste on facebook and all those games. looks for some to be hours and hours a day... sure i occasionally pop onto my computer to play a zuma game - but its maybe once or twice a month. don't people have more interesting things to do with their lives in real life? i also have concerns for my children and the next generations - i am monitoring carefully the time my kids are allowed on the computer, and make sure their days are full with activities outside of the home!

As someone who plays those games...
Do I waste "EXTREME amounts of time on facebook and all those games"- No.
Do I play those games for hours and hours? No.
I don't get a lot of time to myself. I don't get a lot of time to myself outside of the house. Those games that I play- which are mainly just FarmVille and YoVille- I might try a couple others and then drop them b/c I don't like them- are my time to myself usually after DH gets home. I play throughout the day- yes. Usually when Addy is taking her cat naps. Where is Colin? He's right there with me. We work together. We figure out the crops, we do the math. We work it together. I do a bulk of the playing during his quiet time. I post FarmVille and YoVille stuff b/c I play with friends of mine. So it isn't an addiction for me. I don't waste countless hours on it. Every once in awhile I'm on it more often than usual just because I've gotten through my work and I'm bored and the kids are sleeping.

Jennie - sorry if you took offense to what i wrote. and tbh, i didn't consider you as one of those extreme people i was thinking about. there are quite a few people on my friends list from who i would get nearly 100 mafia wars messages or farmville messages all.day.long. (some i suspect play all day long at their "real life" jobs - that's another story. just happy i dont pay their salaries...)

i as well pop onto the internet every few hours or so. i use it as a bit of downtime. i award myself after i have gotten some "to-do"s accomplished. it is usually 2-3 min on momsquawk, my expecting club, and i check about 4 news sites. (oh, and perez a few times a day for my real guilty pleasure lol)

-- Edited by muffy on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 09:34:18 AM

daisy · Guru

muffy wrote:

daisy wrote:

yeah - i've been wondering this actually - since i'm not on FB with you guys, what *are* the interactions on FB like? mainly just responding to each other's status updates? or more emailing/chatting through FB? are you guys on there all the time talking to each other the way we all used to be here?
just how many pics am i missing?
just how *much* am i missing?

i agree with muffy, FB moves so fast and i bet i'd miss a ton anyway.
everytime MS is slow, i am like "oh whatever i should just friend everyone" but then i hesitate.

when browsing, you can see the intial status that someone writes - and whatever comments people have made up to that point.
the big problem i have it that it is NOT like a thread such as we have here... and i am not about to go back a re-read through peoples status updates to see if anyone added any comments or commented to what i wrote - that is where, IMO it becomes completely unmanageable to me. what is missing is these "threads" and the fact that our board prompts us to read new posts added to threads, and we can easily see when there are/are not threads with new unread posts.
so i just read status updates till i get to the ones i read before. i don't go back over old ones - so surely i am missing the "chat" type aspect.
if you delete all the spam-type posts, like i mentioned, and you have limited to MS friends - i think you would see quite a lot of pics. people post groups of pics from "events" but they also will post here and there an odd one-off pic. i like seeing those.
also, i am cautious not to post just anything on FB because of the wide variety of people i am friends with. the stuff i post here, including about my pregnancy the past 7 months, i do not post on FB.

fwiw - i think you should open a dummy FB account and friend just the MS group of gals and check it out - that way it remains a private forum to you (what was the old ivillage pseudonym you used? you could use that!) especially as it is coming up to christmas season, and i bet a lot of the MS gals will be posting a lot of pictures... (and as said, anytime you get spam type updated from the gamers and poll takers, you can hide those applications while still getting the "real" updates from the ladies)

yeah totally - i am on facebook - i'm on there alllll the time - but i only have IRL friends as friends.

i have considered a dummy acct for FB too, but then i have THREE things to check, not counting email (regular FB, MS-FB (lmao), and MS proper).

aye yi yai.

Supafly · Guru

muffy wrote:

Sunshine wrote:

The thing, I think, about Facebook (in addition to those darned games!) is that I can update in one place for friends, family, everywhere, ya know? ITU about not being able to keep up though! I don't know nearly as much about everyone these days as I'd like to because it moves SO fast over there.

I do read here a lot; I just don't always say much. And I bet I'm not the only one.

what people might want to do is hide all those stupid game and poll results - i really don't care what score someone got in whatever online game they spent the last 4 hours online playing - kwim? or what someone's horoscope is for the day? so i just hide them - so i still get the "real" status updates and such from people, but not all the SPAM!

but even with facebook - there is something missing - the interaction between us here in this board is not something that can be put out there on facebook, for the opposite reason - the intimacy here. that is what i miss.

i think it is fine to se pictures on FB - it's not the picture posts and stuff like that that i miss here, its the closeness, intimacy, interaction that used to be between us.

but seriously, i just can't wrap my head around the EXTREME amounts of time people waste on facebook and all those games. looks for some to be hours and hours a day... sure i occasionally pop onto my computer to play a zuma game - but its maybe once or twice a month. don't people have more interesting things to do with their lives in real life? i also have concerns for my children and the next generations - i am monitoring carefully the time my kids are allowed on the computer, and make sure their days are full with activities outside of the home!

Megan, ITTTTTTTA. 100%. I miss the closeness and the friendships. Sure, it is nice to read the status updates, but it is not.the.same. And I, for one, have family on my FB so I censor quite a bit (believe it or not, lol) over there. I can be myself here.

Not to mention that there are some friends I have over there who have two accounts, and since they are always on their "gaming" account, IHNI what they are doing, or if they are even around. They basically seem to ignore the other accounts, kwim?

But I agree with Melissa. I think the people who spend their time elsewhere are making a choice-they have swapped one thing (MS) for another (FB, or other things too-I think some are just busy outside of "the internets"). I do understand that, since I feel sometimes like my home would benefit if I spent less time on the computer (I mean in terms of cleanliness and such), but you all are my friends and you are important to me. Even if I have less time than I used to, I still would want to check in here and update, and see what others have been up to. Like my BFF and I these days-she works full time as a teacher and we both have small children, so we really don't see much of each other outside of summer, and we don't have time to chat daily or anything. But we still do try and put forth effort to keep in touch, even on a more basic level, because we care about each other.

I don't begrudge people the choice to move on-and some people I feel like I have kept up fine with (Jools comes to mind)-but it still makes me a bit sad.

We still have an awesome group though-I LOVE MS.

FoxyRoxy · Guru

i think that we we all started this there was only one child and probably during this years each of our families have grown a lot. where there used to be only playdates now there is soccer games or swimming.

what i miss the most? those swaps. not the actual gift but figuring out what to buy for someone who lives away from me, whom I have never met but that I REALLY appreciate. I use to look forward to watch those thread with all the pics and reactions.

like sunshine said I'm one of those who read a lot in here but don't post as often... yet I know most of your stories like they were my own.

can you believe that i'm actually counting the days for muffy's birth day? or that I know that daisy husband must be crazy with the yankees championship? or that i'm waiting to hear from cole and his hospital stay?

i mean... this are just some examples. i consider this site family and i love being part of it.